tildes!!

registered for a new account on two tilde communities and i'm super excited about it, but knowing past experiences with neocities failing to send my registration email on two email services im using (proton and yahoo), im kind of afraid the mail with all my credentials and account info might not reach me at all... :°< to be fair, both say registration could take weeks and i'm definitely not used to that!!! it's already been two whole weeks since i tried registering for tilde.town and I really hope nothing went wrong with the registration... we'll see...

can anyone here who's registered for a tilde community/service of any kind tell me what their waiting time was? Let me know! :°3

🐰 99thplace

2025-11-21 · 6 months ago · 👍 mimas2AC, curry

22 Comments ↓

🚀 stack · Nov 21 at 04:10:

Yeah, tildes are usually run by enthusiasts, and enthusiasm often wanes after a while. I've been running my CGI games on tildes and had to move three times now due to neglect and complete abandonment. A couple of months ago decided to spend $5.00 a month on my own VPS even though I need less than 0.01% of one... That's actually what many tildes run on, a $5.00 VPS. God bless them -- Thank you for your service.

🐦 roughnecks · Nov 21 at 17:11:

I had the same experience as stack, unfortunately. There's a new club in town though, give it a go maybe:

gemini://orbitaloutpost.club/

🐰 99thplace [OP] · Nov 21 at 17:40:

thank you roughnecks!! ill be sure to check it out! i've yet to be accepted in a tilde server of any kind, really..

🚀 stack · Nov 21 at 22:18:

I've been on ctrl-c.club for a long time.

If you want something tilde-like but more permanent, check out sdf.org -- they've been around for decades, and will give you a shell account very fast.

🐰 99thplace [OP] · Nov 22 at 09:51:

ahhh thank you stack!! it seems ctrl-c.club has stopped accepting signups, but i will definitely check out sdf.org!! kinda crazy for a pubnix to be online for so long

❤️ curry · Nov 22 at 12:16:

Thanks to you, I learned about the historic sdf.org, and I just signed up myself. They said I need to validate, so I just paid $6 via PayPal, but I’m not sure when they’ll validate my account. It looks like sdf.org provides Unix shell accounts.

🚀 stack · Nov 22 at 18:32:

It was a dollar when I validated, and it was optional, but gave you some extra minor privileges... I suppose the current real rate of inflation makes $6 less than one 2010 dollar. Bastards.

I'm sure you'll be validated early next week

You get a shell, email with webmail access, and SSH access. There is a BSD system too, I haven't tried it yet. Gemini and Gofer servers, no CGI, and lots of local resources.

🚀 stack · Nov 22 at 18:35:

I also signed up for the Soviet Republic recently, mostly for the joke value of the email address. Although it will probably get me deported.

🐦 roughnecks · Nov 22 at 18:47:

I'm doing something similar but shell accounts are only for friends and I am only asking for donations, IF anyone wants to.

Resources are not endless but we got email/xmpp/gemini hosting and some other services.

🚀 stack · Nov 22 at 19:56:

@roughnecks - that is wonderful! If only everyone in the world did that, we would have a utopia.

On another positive note, everyone is building enormous racks of servers for the 'AI boom'. Once they realize it is not happening -- no AGI, we just get bigger ChatGPT (which is useful but limited), we should get really cheap compute from all that excess!

🐰 99thplace [OP] · Nov 22 at 21:28:

just signed up for sdf.org! i find the two-year free account limit kind of weird but definitely understandable considering how easily people could otherwise leave their dead accounts as they are or leech from the free services. time to find resources on how to get a gopherhole + capsule running :°3 @roughnecks what you are doing is awesome!! I also signed up for orbitaloutpost.club, though i haven't heard back yet

🐦 roughnecks · Nov 22 at 23:01:

ahah, thank you! have fun!

P.S: I'm following the "outpost"'s progress and I believe they changed certificate somehow, because Lagrange told me about that. Last time I checked there were 4 capsuleers already, but everyone with the default content.

🐰 99thplace [OP] · Nov 22 at 23:18:

it was basically born yesterday so everyone must be testing their own thing, i just found it kinda odd how all four users have the same exact layout. hopefully my email went through!! @~@

🐰 99thplace [OP] · Nov 22 at 23:22:

@stack - the day this whole ordeal crumbles, all the unused 4090s will trickle down onto the skinny, malnourished, GPU-starved populace and we will finally THRIVE!

🐦 roughnecks · Nov 22 at 23:33:

gimme!

🚀 stack · Nov 22 at 23:49:

@roughnecks, certificate changes are a commonplace thing here. With self-signed certificates you can make them expire in 100 years, but the defaults are often very short, so you will see it a lot...

🦂 zzo38 · Nov 23 at 00:03:

My idea about dealing with expired and compromised certificates is to not use the self-signed certificate directly, but instead use that to sign another certificate and use that one. The certificate may contain an extension to indicate this (I wrote a way to do this), and this can also be used in case you need to change things in the certificate (including the public key, common name, extensions, etc) while still being clear it is your certificate. Another advantage is if some service allows certificate extensions to restrict permissions, it can be helpful for doing that too. There are many other benefits as well.

🌲 Half_Elf_Monk · Nov 23 at 02:51:

Does SDF ask you to pay money to get features? I was hoping to put a gemini capsule on there, but it won't let me use scp to sync files. Maybe I did it wrong...

🐦 roughnecks · Nov 23 at 03:15:

@stack I am re-using the key when generating a new cert with let's encrypt. reuse_key=true, or something like that.. am in bed right now

🚀 stack · Nov 23 at 03:29:

You know you can do it on a Linux command line with a simple command, at least for Gemini

🚀 stack · Nov 23 at 03:31:

I can't remember why I paid $1... Maybe just to be an 'ARPA' member or whatever...

❤️ curry · Nov 24 at 04:03:

@stack @Half_Elf_Monk

I checked my mail inside the SDF system using elf, and I found the following message:

So it looks like my account was validated only a few hours after I paid the $6.

To be honest, the $6 payment wasn’t actually mandatory for me either, but I didn’t like the idea that my account would expire in two years, and I also wanted to try out the VoIP(?) services. Since $6 didn’t feel like a big burden, I went ahead and paid it without much thought. Looking back, maybe it was a bit impulsive, but I don’t really regret it.