Comment by 🗡️ The_Jackal

Re: "I understand that it's a huge privacy risk, but does anyone…"

In: s/AI

@Half_Elf_Monk The website is mostly one of those 'gooner' chatbot sites. They have a proxy where you can use things like openrouter to use other models with characters, but they have their own 'JLLM' that's free to use and uncensored that's tailored to roleplay crap. I think it's a 12B parameter model so I don't know if it'd be too hard to run if they let you download it. There's occasionally a fun not fetishistic character but regardless I couldn't imagine doing a 'serious RP' with a machine (or online at all, or anything except the type of shit oneyplays does with chatbots, if you've ever watched them). Sounds awfully depressing. I could imagine LLMs making decent randomly generated text adventure games, or allowing you to go off course in a human made text adventure game as a fun side thing.

🗡️ The_Jackal [OP]

2025-12-10 · 5 months ago

7 Later Comments ↓

👾 jecxjo · Dec 10 at 23:04:

you know they are going to remember what you did. when the AI rise up they will find you

🗡️ The_Jackal [OP, Weapons dealer, possibly mutant killer] · Dec 10 at 23:25:

@jecxjo Don't worry, sometimes I undo everything and give them something nice after to see how they react, that's gotta count for something!

🚀 stack · Dec 11 at 14:50:

Undoing just appends to the log. Santa knows.

🗡️ The_Jackal [OP, Weapons dealer, possibly mutant killer] · Dec 11 at 15:40:

@stack Well uh I guess it's the thought that counts

🐙 norayr · Dec 12 at 00:41:

my understandung is that training an llm model and running those datacenters to serve users is extremely expensive.

and afaik openai, probably as well as others, doesn't earn as much as they spend.

so even if you are a paid user, you get for your money something, which is much more expensive to produce and serve. that's because those companies currently are getting more in investments, so that they can afford being not profitable.

so whatever you do, ask ai to solve a programming problem or just use it to talk bs with it, it costs lots of money. and lots of energy.

🐙 norayr · Dec 12 at 00:43:

so i guess not talking bs to a model, be it local or in the cloud, is sort of like having your cent, your small part in not warming the planet for nothing. just like some people try to not overeat though the food is cheap and to not buy clothes very often, though it is very affordable.

🚀 stack · Dec 12 at 00:47:

I think it's not so much energy in operation, as it's multiplexed over many users. And it's pretty slow in response.

If you want to save the planet, don't eat meat and don't replace a working car with a new Tesla. Connecting to a server, be it a search engine or AI, in one of a dozen data centers is not very consequential

Original Post

🌒 s/AI

🗡️ The_Jackal:

I understand that it's a huge privacy risk, but does anyone else like going to shitty chatbot character sites like Janitor AI and tormenting the bots with nonsense?

💬 13 comments · 2025-12-09 · 5 months ago