Comment by 🚀 mk270
Re: "There are at least four Raspberry Pis in the house here...…"
@skyjake Sorry, I do beg your pardon. I should have been clearer: I was intending only to respond to @jsreed5's point, which I quoted directly without it being explicit whom I was replying to.
2024-09-14 · 2 years ago
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🚀 jsreed5 · 2024-09-16 at 10:49:
"Goal" might have been the incorrect word on my part. You are correct that the stated goal of the Raspberry Pi Foundation has never changed. I meant to convey that ever since the early days, the foundation intended to implement their goals by creating simple, affordable, low-power computers--and that in my opinion, their current implementation doesn't quite resemble their original ideas. Their ideas on implementation are apparent in their early "About Us" page: https://web.archive.org/web/20120323154038/http://www.raspberrypi.org/about
🚀 mk270 · 2024-09-24 at 18:12:
Again, I don't really agree that "low-power" or "simple" came into it. It was only about "affordable", specifically, limiting the cost to $35, so that if the child somehow broke the device, it wasn't wrecking the parent's work machine, but wrecking something that many families could afford to replace.
I'd look at the business plan documents / prospectus circulated around the time of the IPO for where the trading company is going next - very informative.
🐼 erick · 2024-12-22 at 01:34:
I love the RPis, and also (currently) have a couple of them running at home, one is running home automation stuff, and the other one, a beefier RPi 5, is hosting among other things my GoToSocial and my Gemcapsule 🤓. Pretty sure I have a couple of ZWs and a RPi 5 I got as a hackathon price waiting for new ideas, or to be girted to some firend or family member.
👻 darkghost · 2024-12-27 at 02:19:
I'm a big fan of the 500 I just got. It's enough to run the fat web reasonably. No fans. Still uses the microSD cards.
🚀 stack · 2024-12-27 at 22:54:
Running a Web browser reasonably requires a ridiculous amount of CPU, so this is an accomplishment!
👻 darkghost · 2024-12-28 at 12:34:
The whole kit is a bit much. I already had a second hand monitor, SD card with rasp pi software, second hand mouse, previously purchased HDMI cable, and a 15W USB C power supply on hand. I think that's where it can make sense, when you can make use of something you already have or breathe life into something destined for the scrap heap. I love the form factor, but I grew up on an Atari 65XE and Amiga 500.
🚀 stack · 2024-12-28 at 20:20:
You can easily buy a used notebook with 10x processing power, or if you have a monitor, a used business computer even more powerful...
The reason to get a R.P. is low power consumption but it's going up rapidly, no fan noise which is no longer the case, price, also not happening...
Remaining advantages: form factor, access to gpios, and standardization of sorts...
RISC-V machines will soon take over. Especially since Chinese companies don't waste more than half of their budget on charitable activities and DEI. Wouldnt it be nice if Raspberry Pies were half-price?
👻 darkghost · 2024-12-28 at 22:14:
I'm clocking 2.1 watts at idle and 6.4 watts under load. Am I missing something? This seems pretty power efficient.
🚀 stack · 2024-12-29 at 00:39:
A modern AMD 'general use' is many times faster than an overclocked Raspberry Pi going full blast.
👻 darkghost · 2024-12-29 at 12:35:
@HansBrix Is this the power consumption at the plug or just for the CPU? My measurements were done with a watt meter at the plug for the whole computer, accessories and all.
@stack If a general purpose task is better accomplished using a higher speed, do that. I've found the pi line to be too slow for lots of general purpose tasks until the 500 (skipped the 5.) It's still pretty energy efficient and the 500 at least has no fans. That's all I'm saying. I'm running MX Linux on mine and it's fast enough to run Firefox/LibreWolf without being frustrating. Chromium was the choice because it was that much more efficient but now it's possible to not run chromium, which is very nice indeed.
🚀 stack · 2024-12-29 at 18:44:
Hey, I like the little Pis and own three. However I still have to find a good purpose for them. Too expensive and hard to maintain where microcontrollers would do and too expensive and slow for general purpose use. Maybe I will finally use it for my remote security cam system, aggregating data from a few esp32 cams.
just wanted to follow up, thanks to the AI bubble everythings gone up. pi 500+ is now £393.60 (twice the amount it was originally)
It's nuts. I just bought a Thinkpad with a p7, a terabyte M2 drive and 24GB RAM for under $200 US.
Why would anyone buy a raspberry pi?
💯 agree. I still like their picos and zeros. I do fear those are gonna go up in price too whilst this bubble goes on.
👻 darkghost · Apr 07 at 22:22:
I just made a bird feeder camera from a zero. Perfect board for something like that. But I can foresee the end of hobby SBCs.
Original Post
There are at least four Raspberry Pis in the house here... I've been a fan since the first generation. I hope they don't lose sight of their core values, though, with the recent IPO. I recall also hearing about some PR/community blunders recently, but such things can always occur as the business grows.