Any Windows clients?

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to start out by thanking you all for a great project, spec
and community. It's great to see and hear other people with the same
desire for a simpler web.

I'm a big-time Linux user, bare-metal, and BSD guy. However, I'm confined
to Windows for my day job :/ So, I was just wondering if anyone on this
list knows of a Windows client floating around that I could use.

Thanks everyone!
-- 
Dunderpate

Dunderpate writes:

> I'm a big-time Linux user, bare-metal, and BSD guy. However, I'm confined
> to Windows for my day job :/ So, I was just wondering if anyone on this
> list knows of a Windows client floating around that I could use.

Last I checked, AV-98 *almost but not quite* worked on Windows; it would
probably be fairly easy to fix. Something to do with tempfile handling.

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>> I'm a big-time Linux user, bare-metal, and BSD guy. However, I'm
>> confined
>> to Windows for my day job :/ So, I was just wondering if anyone on this
>> list knows of a Windows client floating around that I could use.
>
> Last I checked, AV-98 *almost but not quite* worked on Windows; it would
> probably be fairly easy to fix. Something to do with tempfile handling.

PerfectI saw AV-98 on the list of clients, but didn't know it was even
remotely close to working on Windows. I'll see if I can poke around in the
code and make it work. If I have success, I'll try to contact the author
about upstreaming the patch(es).

Thanks for the info :D
-- 
Dunderpate

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 03:11:59PM -0500, Dunderpate wrote:
 
> PerfectI saw AV-98 on the list of clients, but didn't know it was even
> remotely close to working on Windows. I'll see if I can poke around in the
> code and make it work. If I have success, I'll try to contact the author
> about upstreaming the patch(es).

Please do!  It would be great to have AV-98 work on as many platforms as
possible.  I think this should be very possible, I've probably just been
lazy about path manipulations somewhere or something like that.

Hmm, well, it will, by default, try calling out to programs like `cat`
and `less` which it may not find (although I understand there's a lot
more support for unix-like userspace in modern Windows?).  That should
all be fixable with some calls to `handler` (which you can then stick in
an rc file to make persistent).  Let me know if you have problems with
any of this.

Cheers,
Solderpunk

It was thus said that the Great solderpunk once stated:
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 03:11:59PM -0500, Dunderpate wrote:
>  
> > PerfectI saw AV-98 on the list of clients, but didn't know it was even
> > remotely close to working on Windows. I'll see if I can poke around in the
> > code and make it work. If I have success, I'll try to contact the author
> > about upstreaming the patch(es).
> 
> Please do!  It would be great to have AV-98 work on as many platforms as
> possible.  I think this should be very possible, I've probably just been
> lazy about path manipulations somewhere or something like that.
> 
> Hmm, well, it will, by default, try calling out to programs like `cat`
> and `less` which it may not find (although I understand there's a lot
> more support for unix-like userspace in modern Windows?).  That should
> all be fixable with some calls to `handler` (which you can then stick in
> an rc file to make persistent).  Let me know if you have problems with
> any of this.

  On Unix, there are several programs that examine $PAGER (the environment
variable) to know which program to use to paginate output.  Two other
environment variables that might be useful are $VISUAL and $EDITOR (both for
editing text), $TEMP (Windows), $TMP and $TMPDIR (Unix) for a directory for
temporary files.

  -spc

Dunderpate writes:
> I'm a big-time Linux user, bare-metal, and BSD guy. However, I'm confined
> to Windows for my day job :/ So, I was just wondering if anyone on this
> list knows of a Windows client floating around that I could use.

Provided you have emacs installed, the elpher package is known to work
under windows.

Tim
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The other options of course are to use the web proxys via a web browser.

https://portal.mozz.us/gemini/gemini.circumlunar.space/

https://proxy.vulpes.one/gemini/gemini.circumlunar.space

They both work nicely, but it is slightly more obvious with the first 
how to go directly to a URL (rather browse a link to it), as there is a 
text box at the top of each page. In the second you have to hack the 
URL, but the UI rendering is more visually appealing IMO.

  - L

On 16-May-2020 00:00, plugd wrote:
> Dunderpate writes:
>> I'm a big-time Linux user, bare-metal, and BSD guy. However, I'm confined
>> to Windows for my day job :/ So, I was just wondering if anyone on this
>> list knows of a Windows client floating around that I could use.
> Provided you have emacs installed, the elpher package is known to work
> under windows.
>
> Tim

If you're feeling adventurous, someone sent me instructions to build
Castor (https://git.sr.ht/~julienxx/castor) on Windows without WSL.

https://gist.github.com/sexybiggetje/3a4df41bb7f304aab02ea6006944f283

Haven't tried it myself.

Cheers!
--julienxx

On 5/14/20 8:29 PM, Dunderpate wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I just wanted to start out by thanking you all for a great project, spec
> and community. It's great to see and hear other people with the same
> desire for a simpler web.
>
> I'm a big-time Linux user, bare-metal, and BSD guy. However, I'm confined
> to Windows for my day job :/ So, I was just wondering if anyone on this
> list knows of a Windows client floating around that I could use.
>
> Thanks everyone!

Il giorno gio 14 mag 2020 alle 13:29, Dunderpate <dunderpate at sdf.org> 
ha scritto:
> I'm a big-time Linux user, bare-metal, and BSD guy. However, I'm 
> confined
> to Windows for my day job :/ So, I was just wondering if anyone on 
> this
> list knows of a Windows client floating around that I could use.
> 

Hi Dunderpate

I didn't tried but I would say that Alrisha 
(https://git.sr.ht/~fabrixxm/alrisha) being pure Qt should run on 
windows without any problem...

> Il giorno gio 14 mag 2020 alle 13:29, Dunderpate <dunderpate at sdf.org>
> ha scritto:
>> I'm a big-time Linux user, bare-metal, and BSD guy. However, I'm
>> confined
>> to Windows for my day job :/ So, I was just wondering if anyone on
>> this
>> list knows of a Windows client floating around that I could use.
>>
> I didn't tried but I would say that Alrisha
> (https://git.sr.ht/~fabrixxm/alrisha) being pure Qt should run on
> windows without any problem...
Hi there!

Thanks for the recommendation! I just had a chance to look into this last
night and, unfortunately I'm not that comfortable creating a Qt account
just to install the tooling required to run qmake :/ I might be missing
something that allows me to bypass the account creation, but it's a
principle thing I guess LOL. The client itself seems nice enough though,
and if they had pre-compiled builds I'd certainly use one of 'em.

Thanks again :D
-- 
Dunderpate

I just got mcross running, after struggling to get Castor to build (even 
with the instructions, I'm not sure what I'm missing :/)

https://sr.ht/~nhanb/mcross/

it's pretty straightforward: Python 3.7+, run "pip install mcross" and then "mcross"

- Andrew


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lists.orbitalfox.eu> wrote ----
 > Message: 9
 > Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 10:12:59 -0500
 > From: "Dunderpate" <dunderpate at sdf.org>
 > To: "A protocol that is slightly more complex than gopher, but
 >     significantly simpler than HTTP" <gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu>
 > Subject: Re: Any Windows clients?
 > Message-ID: <fea0338c5bd0b17594fa5689ffcbc6d6.squirrel at mx.sdf.org>
 > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
 > 
 > > Il giorno gio 14 mag 2020 alle 13:29, Dunderpate <dunderpate at sdf.org>
 > > ha scritto:
 > >> I'm a big-time Linux user, bare-metal, and BSD guy. However, I'm
 > >> confined
 > >> to Windows for my day job :/ So, I was just wondering if anyone on
 > >> this
 > >> list knows of a Windows client floating around that I could use.
 > >>
 > > I didn't tried but I would say that Alrisha
 > > (https://git.sr.ht/~fabrixxm/alrisha) being pure Qt should run on
 > > windows without any problem...
 > Hi there!
 > 
 > Thanks for the recommendation! I just had a chance to look into this last
 > night and, unfortunately I'm not that comfortable creating a Qt account
 > just to install the tooling required to run qmake :/ I might be missing
 > something that allows me to bypass the account creation, but it's a
 > principle thing I guess LOL. The client itself seems nice enough though,
 > and if they had pre-compiled builds I'd certainly use one of 'em.
 > 
 > Thanks again :D
 > -- 
 > Dunderpate
 >

Hi Andrew,

Fantastic! I'm much more familiar with Python than I am with rust and all
the vcpkg shenanigans that were going on with castor. I'll give this a
shot and post a pic if it works.

Thanks again Andrew :D

Dunderpate
> I just got mcross running, after struggling to get Castor to build (even
> with the instructions, I'm not sure what I'm missing :/)
>
> https://sr.ht/~nhanb/mcross/
>
> it's pretty straightforward: Python 3.7+, run "pip install mcross" and
> then "mcross"
>
> - Andrew
>
>
>  ---- On Tue, 19 May 2020 11:13:04 -0400
> <gemini-request at lists.orbitalfox.eu> wrote ----
>  > Message: 9
>  > Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 10:12:59 -0500
>  > From: "Dunderpate" <dunderpate at sdf.org>
>  > To: "A protocol that is slightly more complex than gopher, but
>  >     significantly simpler than HTTP" <gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu>
>  > Subject: Re: Any Windows clients?
>  > Message-ID: <fea0338c5bd0b17594fa5689ffcbc6d6.squirrel at mx.sdf.org>
>  > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>  >
>  > > Il giorno gio 14 mag 2020 alle 13:29, Dunderpate <dunderpate at sdf.org>
>  > > ha scritto:
>  > >> I'm a big-time Linux user, bare-metal, and BSD guy. However, I'm
>  > >> confined
>  > >> to Windows for my day job :/ So, I was just wondering if anyone on
>  > >> this
>  > >> list knows of a Windows client floating around that I could use.
>  > >>
>  > > I didn't tried but I would say that Alrisha
>  > > (https://git.sr.ht/~fabrixxm/alrisha) being pure Qt should run on
>  > > windows without any problem...
>  > Hi there!
>  >
>  > Thanks for the recommendation! I just had a chance to look into this
> last
>  > night and, unfortunately I'm not that comfortable creating a Qt account
>  > just to install the tooling required to run qmake :/ I might be missing
>  > something that allows me to bypass the account creation, but it's a
>  > principle thing I guess LOL. The client itself seems nice enough
> though,
>  > and if they had pre-compiled builds I'd certainly use one of 'em.
>  >
>  > Thanks again :D
>  > --
>  > Dunderpate
>  >
>

FWIW, I'm on the vcpkg team so if anyone needs help with it you can always 
reach out. Additionally, includecpp.org's discord has a #vcpkg channel a 
few of us hang out on.

(somewhat unrelated but _shrug_)

Nicole

-------- Original Message --------
On May 19, 2020, 10:52, Dunderpate wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> Fantastic! I'm much more familiar with Python than I am with rust and all
> the vcpkg shenanigans that were going on with castor. I'll give this a
> shot and post a pic if it works.
>
> Thanks again Andrew :D
>
> Dunderpate
>> I just got mcross running, after struggling to get Castor to build (even
>> with the instructions, I'm not sure what I'm missing :/)
>>
>> https://sr.ht/~nhanb/mcross/
>>
>> it's pretty straightforward: Python 3.7+, run "pip install mcross" and
>> then "mcross"
>>
>> - Andrew
>>
>>
>> ---- On Tue, 19 May 2020 11:13:04 -0400
>> <gemini-request at lists.orbitalfox.eu> wrote ----
>> > Message: 9
>> > Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 10:12:59 -0500
>> > From: "Dunderpate" <dunderpate at sdf.org>
>> > To: "A protocol that is slightly more complex than gopher, but
>> > significantly simpler than HTTP" <gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu>
>> > Subject: Re: Any Windows clients?
>> > Message-ID: <fea0338c5bd0b17594fa5689ffcbc6d6.squirrel at mx.sdf.org>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>> >
>> > > Il giorno gio 14 mag 2020 alle 13:29, Dunderpate <dunderpate at sdf.org>
>> > > ha scritto:
>> > >> I'm a big-time Linux user, bare-metal, and BSD guy. However, I'm
>> > >> confined
>> > >> to Windows for my day job :/ So, I was just wondering if anyone on
>> > >> this
>> > >> list knows of a Windows client floating around that I could use.
>> > >>
>> > > I didn't tried but I would say that Alrisha
>> > > (https://git.sr.ht/~fabrixxm/alrisha) being pure Qt should run on
>> > > windows without any problem...
>> > Hi there!
>> >
>> > Thanks for the recommendation! I just had a chance to look into this
>> last
>> > night and, unfortunately I'm not that comfortable creating a Qt account
>> > just to install the tooling required to run qmake :/ I might be missing
>> > something that allows me to bypass the account creation, but it's a
>> > principle thing I guess LOL. The client itself seems nice enough
>> though,
>> > and if they had pre-compiled builds I'd certainly use one of 'em.
>> >
>> > Thanks again :D
>> > --
>> > Dunderpate
>> >
>>
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Il giorno mar, 19/05/2020 alle 10.12 -0500, Dunderpate ha scritto:
> Thanks for the recommendation! I just had a chance to look into this
> last
> night and, unfortunately I'm not that comfortable creating a Qt
> account
> just to install the tooling required to run qmake :/ I might be
> missing
> something that allows me to bypass the account creation, but it's a
> principle thing I guess LOL

you should not need any qt account to use the opensource edition.
I'm not on windows so I can't check right now, but last time I
installed Qt Creator on win I just downloaded the installer and skipped
any step regarding qt accounts. But things may have changed.


> The client itself seems nice enough though,
> and if they had pre-compiled builds I'd certainly use one of 'em.
> 
> Thanks again :D

I'll try to cross-compile it. Sounds funny :)

Hi there Nicole,

LOL, it's great to have a community of people that are willing to help
with n00bs like me when it comes to vcpkg.

AFAIK, the issue in my case was with OpenSSL failing to compile (which I
eventually got past), and the naming of the gtk *.libs. After about a
half-hour of various failures and fighting with my work computer's
restrictions, vcvarsall, and other stuff; I changed the name of the *.lib
files according to the instructions I was following, and then the linker
just exploded with roughly a gazillion errors. A small tear ran down the
side of my face and I moved on. Perhaps with enough caffeine and a
chatroom of pros, I might stand a chance :D

Thanks again for the pointers to the discord channel. Please do forgive my
remark about vcpkg being "shenanigans". It just happened to be the
proverbial straw that broke my back that day.

Christopher
> FWIW, I'm on the vcpkg team so if anyone needs help with it you can always
> reach out. Additionally, includecpp.org's discord has a #vcpkg channel a
> few of us hang out on.
>
> (somewhat unrelated but _shrug_)
>
> Nicole
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> On May 19, 2020, 10:52, Dunderpate wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> Fantastic! I'm much more familiar with Python than I am with rust and
>> all
>> the vcpkg shenanigans that were going on with castor. I'll give this a
>> shot and post a pic if it works.
>>
>> Thanks again Andrew :D
>>
>> Dunderpate
>>> I just got mcross running, after struggling to get Castor to build
>>> (even
>>> with the instructions, I'm not sure what I'm missing :/)
>>>
>>> https://sr.ht/~nhanb/mcross/
>>>
>>> it's pretty straightforward: Python 3.7+, run "pip install mcross" and
>>> then "mcross"
>>>
>>> - Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- On Tue, 19 May 2020 11:13:04 -0400
>>> <gemini-request at lists.orbitalfox.eu> wrote ----
>>> > Message: 9
>>> > Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 10:12:59 -0500
>>> > From: "Dunderpate" <dunderpate at sdf.org>
>>> > To: "A protocol that is slightly more complex than gopher, but
>>> > significantly simpler than HTTP" <gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu>
>>> > Subject: Re: Any Windows clients?
>>> > Message-ID: <fea0338c5bd0b17594fa5689ffcbc6d6.squirrel at mx.sdf.org>
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>> >
>>> > > Il giorno gio 14 mag 2020 alle 13:29, Dunderpate
>>> <dunderpate at sdf.org>
>>> > > ha scritto:
>>> > >> I'm a big-time Linux user, bare-metal, and BSD guy. However, I'm
>>> > >> confined
>>> > >> to Windows for my day job :/ So, I was just wondering if anyone on
>>> > >> this
>>> > >> list knows of a Windows client floating around that I could use.
>>> > >>
>>> > > I didn't tried but I would say that Alrisha
>>> > > (https://git.sr.ht/~fabrixxm/alrisha) being pure Qt should run on
>>> > > windows without any problem...
>>> > Hi there!
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for the recommendation! I just had a chance to look into this
>>> last
>>> > night and, unfortunately I'm not that comfortable creating a Qt
>>> account
>>> > just to install the tooling required to run qmake :/ I might be
>>> missing
>>> > something that allows me to bypass the account creation, but it's a
>>> > principle thing I guess LOL. The client itself seems nice enough
>>> though,
>>> > and if they had pre-compiled builds I'd certainly use one of 'em.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks again :D
>>> > --
>>> > Dunderpate
>>> >
>>>


-- 
Dunderpate

Don't worry about it; building C++ is _always_ shenanigans ?

Nicole


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??????? Original Message ???????
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 1:59 PM, Dunderpate <dunderpate at sdf.org> wrote:

> Hi there Nicole,
>
> LOL, it's great to have a community of people that are willing to help
> with n00bs like me when it comes to vcpkg.
>
> AFAIK, the issue in my case was with OpenSSL failing to compile (which I
> eventually got past), and the naming of the gtk *.libs. After about a
> half-hour of various failures and fighting with my work computer's
> restrictions, vcvarsall, and other stuff; I changed the name of the *.lib
> files according to the instructions I was following, and then the linker
> just exploded with roughly a gazillion errors. A small tear ran down the
> side of my face and I moved on. Perhaps with enough caffeine and a
> chatroom of pros, I might stand a chance :D
>
> Thanks again for the pointers to the discord channel. Please do forgive my
> remark about vcpkg being "shenanigans". It just happened to be the
> proverbial straw that broke my back that day.
>
> Christopher
>
> > FWIW, I'm on the vcpkg team so if anyone needs help with it you can always
> > reach out. Additionally, includecpp.org's discord has a #vcpkg channel a
> > few of us hang out on.
> > (somewhat unrelated but shrug)
> > Nicole
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > On May 19, 2020, 10:52, Dunderpate wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Andrew,
> > > Fantastic! I'm much more familiar with Python than I am with rust and
> > > all
> > > the vcpkg shenanigans that were going on with castor. I'll give this a
> > > shot and post a pic if it works.
> > > Thanks again Andrew :D
> > > Dunderpate
> > >
> > > > I just got mcross running, after struggling to get Castor to build
> > > > (even
> > > > with the instructions, I'm not sure what I'm missing :/)
> > > > https://sr.ht/~nhanb/mcross/
> > > > it's pretty straightforward: Python 3.7+, run "pip install mcross" and
> > > > then "mcross"
> > > >
> > > > -   Andrew
> > > >
> > > > ---- On Tue, 19 May 2020 11:13:04 -0400
> > > > gemini-request at lists.orbitalfox.eu wrote ----
> > > >
> > > > > Message: 9
> > > > > Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 10:12:59 -0500
> > > > > From: "Dunderpate" dunderpate at sdf.org
> > > > > To: "A protocol that is slightly more complex than gopher, but
> > > > > significantly simpler than HTTP" gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
> > > > > Subject: Re: Any Windows clients?
> > > > > Message-ID: fea0338c5bd0b17594fa5689ffcbc6d6.squirrel at mx.sdf.org
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> > > > >
> > > > > > Il giorno gio 14 mag 2020 alle 13:29, Dunderpate
> > > > > > dunderpate at sdf.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > ha scritto:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm a big-time Linux user, bare-metal, and BSD guy. However, I'm
> > > > > > > confined
> > > > > > > to Windows for my day job :/ So, I was just wondering if anyone on
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > list knows of a Windows client floating around that I could use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I didn't tried but I would say that Alrisha
> > > > > > (https://git.sr.ht/~fabrixxm/alrisha) being pure Qt should run on
> > > > > > windows without any problem...
> > > > > > Hi there!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the recommendation! I just had a chance to look into this
> > > > > last
> > > > > night and, unfortunately I'm not that comfortable creating a Qt
> > > > > account
> > > > > just to install the tooling required to run qmake :/ I might be
> > > > > missing
> > > > > something that allows me to bypass the account creation, but it's a
> > > > > principle thing I guess LOL. The client itself seems nice enough
> > > > > though,
> > > > > and if they had pre-compiled builds I'd certainly use one of 'em.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks again :D
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------------
> > > > >
> > > > > Dunderpate
>
> --
>
> Dunderpate