Great web site to port to gemini

A good way to make geminispace great is to adapt marvelous web site to gemini browsing.

wikipedia is a must
https://librivox.org/?is excellent

Do you know other?

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 06:40:32 +0000
defdefred <defdefred at protonmail.com> wrote:

> Do you know other?

How about Project Gutenberg (gutenberg.org)?

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On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 06:40:32AM +0000, defdefred wrote:
> A good way to make geminispace great is to adapt marvelous web site to gemini browsing.

This has actually been a contentious idea, historically.  I don't think
anybody is *opposed* to people doing this (although obviously people
should take care regarding copyright), but there is a strong argument to
be made, and many have made it, that if we want to attract people into
Geminispace it's important that they can find good content there that
they *can't* find on the web.

There is, of course, room for both approaches, and making good,
openly-licensed content like Wikipedia, Projet Gutenberg, etc. available
in Geminispace would be great, as per the compelling arguments made at
the recently shared list of web mirrors.

Cheers,
Solderpunk

> On Jun 19, 2020, at 18:48, Matthew Graybosch <hello at matthewgraybosch.com> wrote:
> 
> How about Project Gutenberg (gutenberg.org)?

With matching /gemini/ hardware perhaps:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7x5kpb/anyone-can-build-this-open-source
-drm-free-kindle-alternative
https://www.hackster.io/news/the-open-book-an-open-feather-compatible-ebook-2011bffe9ddc
https://github.com/joeycastillo/The-Open-Book

On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 10:39:22 +0000
defdefred <defdefred at protonmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday 19 June 2020 18:48, Matthew Graybosch
> > How about Project Gutenberg (gutenberg.org)?
> 
> Yes!
> and with the plain text utf-8 books, no need to quit the gemini
> browser.

Got a small proof-of-concept going on gemini://tanelorn.city/library/,
but it's hand-curated. Doing a full mirror would take over 42GB just
for the texts.

-- 
Matthew Graybosch		gemini://starbreaker.org
#include <disclaimer.h>		gemini://demifiend.org
https://matthewgraybosch.com	gemini://tanelorn.city
"Out of order?! Even in the future nothing works."

Matthew Graybosch <hello at matthewgraybosch.com> writes:

> Got a small proof-of-concept going on gemini://tanelorn.city/library/,
> but it's hand-curated. Doing a full mirror would take over 42GB just
> for the texts.

Hey, very cool. Are the subject categories hand-managed/static? Or do
you have a database backend of some kind?

I may try to curate a public domain Gemini library for Weird fiction,
starting with The King In Yellow...

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| battle, and someone else conquers himself, the latter one |  
| is the greatest of all conquerors.  --- The Dhammapada    |

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 05:06, Matthew Graybosch <hello at matthewgraybosch.com>
wrote:

> Got a small proof-of-concept going on gemini://tanelorn.city/library/,
> but it's hand-curated. Doing a full mirror would take over 42GB just
> for the texts.
>

IMHO that's a much better resource than a full mirror. These days the
problem is not finding content; it's finding content worthy of your time.
Of course I don't share tastes with most people, so it would be great to
have similar curated libraries from many diverse people. I've tried to find
something good to read on Project Gutenberg on multiple occasions and it's
a behemoth of a task.

So thanks for sharing, that's a great idea that I wish other people will
also consider! I started my own humble selection at gemini://
hannuhartikainen.fi/library/ .

-Hannu
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On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 13:43:07 -0400
Jason McBrayer <jmcbray at carcosa.net> wrote:

> I wonder if a static site generator kind of thing would be the sweet
> spot for this. Just being able to tag a file with multiple tags and
> other metadata, and have appropriate index pages generated, without
> duplication of the bigger files.

If you take a moment to visit tanelorn.city/library/ you'll find that I
haven't been duplicating the texts. They all live in a texts/
directory, and then I link to them from multiple indexes as
appropriate. For example, Emma Goldman's _Anarchy and Other Essays_
appears in both "anarchism.gemini" and "feminism.gemini".

> Sounds like a good idea to me. Do you have a place you'd prefer to
> host such a repo?

I'm tempted to use SourceHut because I'm familiar with it, but it has
the potential to be a huge repository. While I'm a paying customer (but
only $5 a month) I don't want to put an unreasonable amount of strain
on the service. 

GitHub might be more convenient for potential contributors, but I'm not
sure I should entrust this to a Microsoft-controlled service.

-- 
Matthew Graybosch		gemini://starbreaker.org
#include <disclaimer.h>		gemini://demifiend.org
https://matthewgraybosch.com	gemini://tanelorn.city
"Out of order?! Even in the future nothing works."

Matthew Graybosch <hello at matthewgraybosch.com> writes:

> If you take a moment to visit tanelorn.city/library/ you'll find that
> I haven't been duplicating the texts. They all live in a texts/
> directory, and then I link to them from multiple indexes as
> appropriate. For example, Emma Goldman's _Anarchy and Other Essays_
> appears in both "anarchism.gemini" and "feminism.gemini".

Ah, looks good; that's what I was suggesting a static site generator do.
Does it get at all hairy maintaining it by hand?

> I'm tempted to use SourceHut because I'm familiar with it, but it has
> the potential to be a huge repository. While I'm a paying customer
> (but only $5 a month) I don't want to put an unreasonable amount of
> strain on the service.

I imagine it would be a pretty long time before it got to be a big repo,
if people were manually curating the books. People aren't going to be
editing the books very much, after all, only the index files (or scripts
and metadata used to generate the index files).

> GitHub might be more convenient for potential contributors, but I'm
> not sure I should entrust this to a Microsoft-controlled service.

Yeah, I only use GitHub as a mirror of my self-hosted Gitea. Which I'd
offer for this task, but it's on residential cable and couldn't take
lots of users.

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+-----------------------------------------------------------+  
| Jason F. McBrayer                    jmcbray at carcosa.net  |  
| If someone conquers a thousand times a thousand others in |  
| battle, and someone else conquers himself, the latter one |  
| is the greatest of all conquerors.  --- The Dhammapada    |

https://sjmulder.nl/en/textonly.html

freD.