Geminauts and their Operative Systems
I'm wondering what operative systems are used by geminauts (desktop/laptop devices, not mobile ones).
May be this poll has more options than geminauts xD.
Poll Results
1. GNU/Linux - Debian or derivative
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2. GNU/Linux - Slackware or derivative
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3. GNU/Linux - Red Hat or derivative
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4. GNU/Linux - Gentoo or derivative
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5. GNU/Linux - Arch or derivative
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6. GNU/Linux Void (or derivatives)
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7. GNU/Linux - other (not derivative)
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8. Unix or derivative [remember: Linux Is Not Unix ;-) ]
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9. BSD or derivative
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10. BeOS or derivative
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11. MacOS
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12. MS Windows
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13. ReactOS
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14. FreeDOS
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127 votes were cast.
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Jan 15 · 4 months ago · 👍 stack, Homer, bsj38381, poemas_infieles, LeafBeef, Atomic-Germ, my-adventures-at · 🔥 1
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I marked myself as using a Red Hat derivative because my main desktop and laptop have Fedora Linux, but I have a lot of physical and virtual machines that use a variey of OSes, including Windows (XP, 10 and 11), to Linux Lite, BSD, and even DietPi on my Raspberry Pi 1B.
☯️ leoperbo [OP] · Jan 15 at 19:53:
@jsreed5
Re: I should have specified "operating systems from which you browse like geminauts". I have more devices with other OS's too (Xubuntu on my home server, Elive Linux on a Mac, Q4OS in a Dell Inspiron 640m, Windows on office's PC)
+1 for Xubuntu - for over a decade my preferred OS
🐝 drcouzelis · Jan 15 at 23:50:
I've been using Arch Linux since 2009! 🤓
☯️ leoperbo [OP] · Jan 16 at 01:41:
@drcouzelis: I've been using Arch Linux since 2009! 🤓
Re: By the way? 😅
BSD would be better wording, since for example OpenBSD which i use is a derivative of NetBSD not FreeBSD ;) plus most of them could be classified as Unix or derivatives.
I'm currently primarily an Arch user, but I also run Slackware, Debian, and OpenBSD on my other machines. I'm also liking Slackware more and more, to the point where I would switch to it as my main OS if the kernel was just a bit more up-to-date (-current isn't an option, unless someone has a few tricks).
Specifically, the Slackware derivative I use is Salix, which is on Gemini!
☯️ leoperbo [OP] · Jan 16 at 11:57:
@dsp: BSD would be better wording, since for example OpenBSD which i use is a derivative of NetBSD not FreeBSD ;) plus most of them could be classified as Unix or derivatives.
Re: You are right! Option edited to preserve votes.
👻 darkghost · Jan 16 at 14:25:
I voted BeOS as a sometimes Haiku user and likely to be the only vote for it. Lagrange is in the app depot on Haiku! Looks good, works mostly well (except for the window resize crashing bug in SDL.)
🐡 Breebee [...] · Jan 16 at 15:05:
i use arch by the way
@darkghost Can Haiku be installed in a VM? I used BeOS back in the day and I'd love to see Alhena running there (supposedly Haiku has a compliant JVM). I remember running my other software on the PS3 using Yellow Dog Linux nearly twenty years ago (again, mostly just to see it).
👻 darkghost · Jan 16 at 18:24:
@bluesman Yes it does. I've used Virtualbox in a Debian host. qemu should also work but I'm less familiar with that.
I think if a VM works as intended you can install any OS and it shouldn't know that it's in a VM...
That's the theory. Although I eventually got them working, I remember both Windows XP and MacOS being a headache to get running in VirtualBox (with the latter not being officially supported at all).
As the saying goes,
OpenBSD since 2005!
None of the above: NixOS.
It is GNU/Linux, but it is not a derivative of other major distros. I also have a few friends running Void Linux. Maybe a "GNU/Lunux - Other" option could have been nice :)
i use gentoo on framework, pinebook, even pinephone. on ibook g4.
only motorola droid 4 runs devuan because it runs maemo-leste.
i helped my friend to install gentoo on m1 laptop.
but i have oberon os, and a2 (more contemporary (not sure that modern) oberon os with parallelism via active objects) on my drive and try to write programs for those oses too.
🐝 drcouzelis · Jan 17 at 01:29:
@leoperbo 😆 You know it! 😅
☯️ leoperbo [OP] · Jan 17 at 02:17:
@decant: OpenBSD since 2005!
Are you academic in Berkeley or something?
☯️ leoperbo [OP] · Jan 17 at 02:28:
@kintrix: None of the above: NixOS. It is GNU/Linux, but it is not a derivative of other major distros. I also have a few friends running Void Linux. Maybe a "GNU/Lunux - Other" option could have been nice :)
It's done! Now you can vote ;)
I like Free BSD but found it too hard to use on a laptop. Would definitely try again on a server
i like bsds a lot.
but license, oh. if i use bsd i contribute to bsd. just by using. or perhaps i will find myself contributing to it.
actually at work i use bsd and i found a kernel bug, debugged, my chief reported it from his name, but whatever, it'll be fixed.
so i contributed.
and aanyone like apple can take decades of work of generations and appropriate it, build on it.
i don't like it.
so i use linux kernel and build minimalistic systems for myself by using gentoo.
i dont want to help apple or future companies that will close the source and do whatever.
bsd license was important for military, dod had to close source and have secrets. so bsd beneifts military and apple.
sorry for offtop.
Solus linux
Debian Stable laptank
Devuan
well im curious what's counting as unix if we're not including BSDs! any geminauts daily driving system v here? :p
for my part i've been daily driving freebsd for probably about a year or so now and it's really grown on me.. unix-like operating systems are a big special interest of mine, but in terms of linux i fall more on the debian side than the arch side so to speak; i.e. slower-paced, stable and not demanding much of my attention to the base system itself. freebsd i've found to be much like that. the documentation is stellar as well, which is one thing i'll say i also like about arch, admittedly i haven't much looked into the debian documentation to give a review of its quality
Solaris. JK.
👻 darkghost · Jan 21 at 22:23:
I have system V running on a PDP-11/70. But I can't get on Gemini with it.
You really have a PDP-11?
☯️ leoperbo [OP] · Jan 23 at 15:53:
@stack: Solaris. JK.
Not all Unix derivatives are so great as Solaris.
☯️ leoperbo [OP] · Jan 23 at 16:07:
@starm: well im curious what's counting as unix if we're not including BSDs
You are right and I'm sorry, when the poll was created, I was influenced by "The Cuckoo's Egg", a great book by Clifford Stoll, where BSD takes a lot of prominence and is presented as apart from Unix, almost like Linux.
👻 darkghost · Jan 23 at 16:51:
I've got a simulator running it. But it's connected to the kit that has the lights and switches.
don't be sorry! nobody agrees what constitutes unix anyway, i don't think there's a point getting heated one way or the other about it -- i just think it's an interesting question where exactly people draw the line and why. now i have a reading reccomendation :)
@darkghost is it a PiDP11? those are pretty sick
👻 darkghost · Jan 23 at 17:21:
Yes!
🐝 drcouzelis · Jan 23 at 17:44:
@starm Mac OS X is certified UNIX... 👀😉
@drcouzelis yes haha my favourite stance to take is tha MacOS is the only unix operating system :p
@darkghost: Oh, it must be that the nice mini-kit with a realistic front panel. I always salivate over it, although the keying in a bootloader by setting binary bits must be something you do maybe once...
👻 darkghost · Jan 23 at 22:33:
I find myself doing it a lot to experiment with the various operating systems. I also hooked the key switch into the power (which is *extremely* satisfying) and wired up an RS-232 port to hook up period appropriate terminals, which I do own.
@darkghost: Ooh, which termanals do you have?
👻 darkghost · Jan 24 at 00:33:
@stack DEC VT-102 is the only true terminal I have. Gorgeous machine. I have some old computers with terminal software such as the Tandy TRS-80 Model 200, Compaq Portable III, and Gateway Handbook (the 8680 version.) I collected these things for about $20 each in that magical time when they were "trash" and before they became "collectable."
Congrats. It is a beautiful device.
I missed that window of 'trash'. Someday I will write about how I chose _not to buy_ a working apple 1 because I thought $4000 was a ridiculous price for something I could wire up in a day or two. Looking back, there are so many ways to make a million with a time machine.
☯️ leoperbo [OP] · Feb 23 at 21:25:
This poll derivated in a genelogical quest about Linux, especially since I was surprised that no one voted for Slackware and its derivatives, including me, I didn't consider it despite the fact that one of them was my first distro: SuSE.
I've just published my:
— Genealogical and galactic tree of Linux distributions
Sorry for the HTTP link, but I think it's a nice and funny way to explore the vast genealogy of this operating system... The project will be continued to expand the information about every distro and to make a gemini-friendly version.
That's an amazing tiddlywiki
that's neat
🚀 SavaRocks · Feb 24 at 12:35:
wow, nicely made tree.
👽 TKurtBond · Mar 10 at 18:02:
I use Fedora on my main computers and have OpenBSD and NetBSD boxes.
🚀 SavaRocks · Mar 10 at 18:06:
gave Arch a shot ... been an Ubuntu user ( both desktop and server ). Went minimal with arch, dwm and slstatus with some scripts and patches. Can't wait to share it with you
Void Linux deserves an entry in this poll.
☯️ leoperbo [OP] · Mar 11 at 14:18:
@cipres: Void Linux deserves an entry in this poll.
Yes sir! Adding Void option since its genealogy is as near from the root as Debian, Slackware, Red Hat, Gentoo or Arch.
🚀 lars_the_bear · Mar 11 at 14:27:
No FreeDOS users yet? What a shame. I'd love to find real hardware that I could run FreeDOS on.
@leoperbo You're right. Thank you. I've just entered the void.
I mainly use Windows since childhood, and I do mess around with using WSL Kali Linux and using VirtualBox for trying out different Linux ISO images from time to time.
My start was SUSE Linux. Back in the day, it came in a nice package with a fantastic handbook. For the last few years, I have been using FreeBSD exclusively on both desktops and servers. The only exception is my LLM/gaming PC, which is powered by Void Linux.
🐦 roughnecks · Mar 13 at 20:03:
OK, here goes. I started using Slackware like more then 20y ago, then moved to debian when self-hosting at home, but on my desktop I've pretty much always been a Windows user :)
we don't have serenity users?
Where are my s/Guix brethren at?
@bw9ubwo, if you have US$6 billion, you can buy SUSE -- it's for sale.
— https://itsfoss.com/news/suse-for-sale-again/
☯️ leoperbo [OP] · Mar 15 at 08:21:
@stack: if you have US$6 billion, you can buy SUSE -- it's for sale.
I don't have that pocket change.
👻 darkghost · Mar 15 at 14:45:
It's in my other pants
I think they bought it for under 3 billion, so if you have 5 billion they will provably do it.
buy it and invest in yet another drawing surface, alternative to both wayland and x, invest in widgets and apps that will only run on suse.
also a new service manager and an audio wrapper.
as a way of trolling segregation of linux.
the problem with all autocracies is that they tell the people to unite... around them. not around alternative parties or leaders.
so redhat says: we create a standard, lets make one linux platform with systemd and wayland.
but it means: lets make linux what we want to see as linux.
you disagree? we'll force you, gtk5 will not have x11 support.
linux by being fragmented was doing pretty well. qt apps work in gnome, gtk in kde.
🏍️ Atomic-Germ · Mar 19 at 04:01:
There's always LFS. No need to feel trapped.