post by ploum
2025-04-06 · 1 year ago · 👍 drh3xx, norayr, aRubes, grouchy, Michael_Washboard
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🦉 ResetReboot · 2025-04-06 at 12:20:
"Google already knows everything about our family through our phones, so I’m trading only a bit more of our privacy for convenience" reminds me of a friend of mine, working in the IT sector and quite savvy, that said «Basically, we lost that battle...»
👻 darkghost · 2025-04-06 at 13:18:
I'm not sure that anybody here was kidding themselves the slightest. This is a bit no true Scotsman of an argument, but no true geek believes what a marketer tells them and settings are only settings if you can trust the vendor. Do not track didn't work because it was a request to the website asking to not be tracked. A request that was ignored because money. If it could be enforced like an ad blocker, the web site would walk you through the steps to turn it off or refuse to show content. Apple has never been pro privacy. Et tu Mozilla? I get it. People need to make money. There's gotta be another way.
🦥 aRubes · 2025-04-06 at 18:52:
As always, I enjoyed reading your post. Thank you!
The car / public transport analogy is quite useful in a number of ways. I started thinking about it, and it got me thinking. How did they achieve it? one major way was by affecting policy and politicians. and that is quite bad, as these corpos can always fight back by changing the laws and regulations so that they change contract law in their favourite jurisdictions to hollow out a licence like the AGPL by makimg some clauses illegal and therfore non binding in the eyes of the courts. Just like some employment contracts' clauses are automatically void even if the employee signed them for their disadvantage to protect the employee. what do you do then?
🐙 norayr · 2025-04-21 at 22:20:
thank you for sharing.
and i don't think we lost that battle. google, facebook, etc, they don't know much about me. they probably know that someone with such a browser likes to read this and this, but it's not much to know!
i read blogs via rss, i read gemlogs every day and i read xmpp chats.
google has no idea what we talk in our community chats and which cat photos we share there.
it is quite possible to live like that. i also used local ai's, it can work, sometimes helpful, but mostly unusable because i have no normal gpu. and instead of waiting for it to think about my problem i can think of it.
i guess if i had a normal gpu it would make sense to use local ai.
🐙 norayr · 2025-04-21 at 22:23:
also i don't use phones since 2011. i use phone devices under linux and i connect to wifi, and i randomize mac addresses because big isp in our city gathers mac data from all apartments and cafeterias and thus they know who is where at any point of time.
🦥 aRubes · 2025-04-22 at 03:09:
no phone at all? that is quite a challenge these days. well done!