Comment by ๐Ÿ namark

Re: "Hi, I'm trying out Lagrange and geminispace in general. Iโ€ฆ"

In: s/Lagrange

Must be a GPU without dedicated memory for those hundreds of megs. On my desktop I get only around 60 in RAM but 400 in dedicated VRAM, with 2558x1415 window. I suppose conventional browsers are not so eager with the GPU textures compared to state of the art gamer tech Lagrange GPU powered engine :P That said the way I use them they rarely take up less than 10GB of RAM, and I reutinely restart them when they inevitably push everything else into swap and bring the whole system to its knees.

๐Ÿ namark

2025-12-15 ยท 5 months ago

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๐Ÿ˜Ž decant ยท Dec 15 at 12:56:

700MB is insane, I'm getting ~100MB

๐Ÿš€ stack ยท Dec 15 at 14:00:

2558x1415x4=14,478,280... Add a texture with fonts, and it's still better than 40x less than 700MB... even with a few thousand bookmarks and buffered gemini pages.

๐Ÿ namark ยท Dec 15 at 15:32:

I would not simply disrespect font textures like that, but yeah I don't see either why screen size should matter that much. I played around resizing the window back and forth like mad, and the VRAM usage kept increasing untill 3Gish (87%ish) amd then the resizing started lagging a bit, so seems like someone somewhere is delaying releasing video memory untill it become unavoidable... I was wondering why dmc5 started lagging recently, makes sense now.

๐Ÿš€ stack ยท Dec 15 at 22:50:

Also the whole point of a GPU is that you don't need a screen buffer...

๐Ÿฆ” partasiili [OP] ยท Dec 16 at 11:02:

Okay yeah, I see now from about:debug that Lagrange's total memory usage is a measly 0.371 MB, but according to the OS it's using (or has reserved? I don't know how MacOS memory management works) 181,7MB. This is after freshly launching Lagrange with a few tabs open, all text. I guess my OS is being wonky, then?

Re: GPU discussion, this is an old iMac with a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M, 512 MB VRAM. I don't know how to check if Lagrange is using that.

๐Ÿš€ stack ยท Dec 16 at 18:19:

On my Linux box Firefox uses gigabytes. I think latest thinking is that unused memory is wasted memory and it's the coder's privilege and responsibility to come up with some way to use it all up.

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๐Ÿฆ” partasiili:

Hi, I'm trying out Lagrange and geminispace in general. I love the sleek minimalism and snappiness of Lagrange, but then I had a look at the Activity Monitor (on MacOS 10.15)... and Lagrange is using more memory (700mb) than Firefox (500mb), which is crazy. Is this normal? I would expect the 'smolweb' be, well, smol in memory consumption as well.

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