Comment by 🚀 stack
ICE absolutely should not be there. Also, borders, taxes, and entitlements.
But I don't want to get too off-topic.
The cause here, returning to the OP is that an irresponsible child brought a gun and extra ammo to a riot (no, he did not forget that he had it), walked around like a cockrel, got in the face of a fed doing his job (poorly) under a presidential order, and got himself shot. He made many bad choices that led to his unfortunate death. His family may get a few bucks because the one fed was out of line, but the others who shot him will probably keep qualified immunity.
Minnesota laws recognize a strict duty to retreat, so if he had tried to use his weapon it would be highly illegal -- he had many opportunities to _not_ go to the riot. In that state, if you have a chance to walk away but wind up using a firearm you go to jail. So please stop saying that he had a 'right' or pretending to support the Second Amendment.
Taking responsibility for one's actions is not something I see much of. Having a government to blame is a sign of not growing up. You can say ICE is responsible for this, or Trump. You can say it's the Democrat's fault for not providing an electable candidate. Maybe it's the founding fathers' fault for not making a better Constitution.
Or just don't bring a gun to a riot.
Jan 28 · 3 months ago
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👻 darkghost · Jan 28 at 19:49:
I just learned he was suffering from a broken rib sustained from a recent encounter with ICE on another day. Whistling and shouting were what provoked ICE that time, according to people who knew about it. He sustained the injury when he was tackled and the agent leaned hard on his back. We don't have a video to judge that encounter and ICE kept no record of it. No word on if he had a firearm that time. But it is a reasonable assessment to say he repeatedly put himself in these situations. Now what provoked the events that lead to his death? We do have that video. It was a disproportionate response from an undisciplined agent. There's a lot of that from the top down, agency wide.
The second amendment argument is important. When the officials started down the same gaslighting path it riled traditional right wing organizations like the NRA. Suddenly, this event is getting an investigation, contrasted with the outright malfeasance after Renee Good was killed.
@crynick What I'm saying isn't political opinion. The left is using immigrants like it used African Americans after the Civil War. Ice is after the violent ones specifically, but really it is about having borders and a country. Othewise, the goal is to flood the US population out with foreign people who depend on the handouts the Democrats supply so they can get the votes and policies they want in place.
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Execution by ICE — Today a man was executed by ICE agents near Minneapolis, Minnesota. Videos have been circulated created by the diligent community members who have been tracking and recording everything ICE does. The national news outlets and social media platforms have been trying to remove these videos as they have shown just how corrupt this government has become. People need to be aware of this and start talking. For the past two months we have been working as a community to setup...