Comment by ๐Ÿ™ norayr

Re: "halow (802.11ah) + b.a.t.m.a.n (802.11s) + yggdrasil"

In: s/meshtastic

i realized we don't need a mesh network like batman to make a mesh with yggdrasil.

yggdrasil will create a mesh over any hierarchical network.

we can just build any network, with private ips, and run yggdrasil, it'll create a mesh and will dynamically find routes.

๐Ÿ™ norayr [OP]

Feb 08 ยท 3 months ago

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๐Ÿ™ norayr [OP] ยท Feb 08 at 23:17:

@JustASillyBird, yes that's also why i love ygg, just run any software over it.

some of my friends run xmpp servers over it, i experimented with ssb over it.

๐Ÿฆ JustASillyBird ยท Feb 10 at 17:43:

One caveat though: Yggdrasil will work over any network *with reasonable bandwidth and latency*. That means you can't run it over the unreasonable protocol of LoRa, which is really the longest-range omnidirectional you're getting with unlicenced spectrum and power. The only mesh you're running over that is Reticulum, with all the afforementioned drawbacks.

๐Ÿ™ norayr [OP] ยท Feb 14 at 00:19:

that's why i want to try halow.

๐Ÿฆ JustASillyBird ยท Feb 14 at 21:29:

HaLow certainly has its place. It's a lot easier to work with than Reticulum-on-LoRa, as it can use standard networking protocols, though can't quite match it on range. With LoRa you are really limited by horizon.

The hardest part seems to be finding another enthusiast in your area to connect with.

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๐Ÿ™ norayr:

halow (802.11ah) + b.a.t.m.a.n (802.11s) + yggdrasil โ€” i have learnt about HaLow here. low power wifi on lower frequencies, lower speed but longer distances. open standard so can be and is implemented by different parties, unlike lorawan. then there's a mesh technology for wifi networks and as i understand, there are halow cards that also support b.a.t.m.a.n. okay, we have physical connection, but what about dynamic routing and packet forwarding? here yggdrasil comes to mind. it can do that...

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