Comment by 🐝 pirkka
Re: "My son is the only person I know in real life -- other than…"
This matches my experience, but there's a spectrum. I think people need to have first- or at most second-hand experience with a "catastrophic event", like Google deleting all personal data because of a falsely triggered abuse protection or something. Many of us simply haven't _been_ in such situations. This might explain why de-Googling is not an industry yet
Mar 14 · 8 weeks ago
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One way to get people to deGoogle is to make Google useless. It would take a massive effort and funding by FOSS and Privacy advocates though. Don't bog down AI training crawlers with tarpits etc... actively feed them as much random garbage as possible. Retard their models if they try to crawl your site despite your robots.txt. Setup mass systems of bots to pointlessly navigate the web and fuck up their analytics data. Poison the beasts and if possible do it using their own platforms!
@lars_the_brear you are starting to wiggle and word game here, so brace yourself ima start quoting you
But they don't -- that's my point.
you are going to argue people don't have problems with their software? really?
Most privacy problems are invisible, and most people don't care about ads.
ah no, I see, you just started by pretending that you have a point, but then realized how absurd it is, and backpedaled to your last point which I already addressed. Again, you don't solve invisible problems, you solve visible problems, then you use your authority to tell them they need to solve invisible problems. That's how it works, the mechanic tells you to fix the engine, and you trust them.
🥜 smallpatatas · Mar 24 at 01:04:
@drh3xx poisoning is the way to go, i totally agree. however i'm of the opinion that "random" poison might be less effective than something a little more ... directional, perhaps?
(i wrote this around a year ago but I think it still probably holds up ok)
— gemini.patatas.ca/posts/poison-as-praxis.gmi
Original Post
My son is the only person I know in real life -- other than me -- who insists on using a de-Googled phone. Other members of my family won't do it, even being fully aware of the privacy hazards or regular Android. Most people I talk to don't even realize it's an option. So I wondered : how many de-Googled phone users know other de-Googled phone users in real life? Of course there are plenty online. But personally?