Comment by ๐Ÿš€ stack

Re: "What's going on with california and colorado ageโ€ฆ"

In: s/US-politics

If you look at his trainwreck California, the fraud and tax hell of the US, the place people can't leave fast enough, you may understand my statement.

As for Trump... Sending "undesirable" (actually, criminal) non-citizens (from prisons) home is the least of my issues with this administration.

๐Ÿš€ stack [anarchist]

Mar 22 ยท 7 weeks ago

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๐Ÿ‘ zipsegv ยท Mar 22 at 17:14:

Sending "undesirable" non-citizens home is the least of my issues with this admibistration.

how, in good faith, can you call yourself an "anarchist" and still think "citizenship" is a meaningful thing that wasn't invented to control people.

All I see is people being forcibly removed from their communities by the violent gang we call "ICE", oftentimes taken to camps with horrible conditions or to places they previously left due to it being extremely unsafe for them.

๐Ÿš€ stack ยท Mar 22 at 17:29:

I've said before that I am a terrible anarchist.

No, I don't believe in borders and entitlements, but I have to live in this world, and have to share it with other people, including the majority who elected this president largely on this issue.

It would be wiser to accept the loss and regroup, and find an _electable_ candidate instead of throwing tantrums and trying to throw the chessboard into the air.

The damage done in terms of human trafficking and suffering in order to bring cheap labor into this country, and the desire of some states to not deport prisoners who are forced into free labor corporate work camps, is horrible. There is no good way to unwind it, and the propaganda machine protects the Empire, using well-meaning people.

๐Ÿš€ lars_the_bear ยท Mar 22 at 18:28:

@zipsegv : "The moment this happens, I'm just not going to use that service."

That's always been my attitude, too. But what's going to happen when you need verifiable ID to do _anything_ on the Internet? Even a DNS lookup? Even Gemini?

My experience is that politicians, when thwarted, tend to react by implementing even stupider policies. Like (in the UK) trying to ban VPNs becasue people are using them to get around age verification.

๐Ÿ‘ zipsegv ยท Mar 22 at 19:45:

@lars_the_bear yeah no, we're in agreement. these laws are really bad in general.

๐Ÿš€ stack ยท Mar 23 at 17:36:

GrapheneOS is refusing to cooperate. See HN

โ€” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47479183

๐Ÿ‘ป darkghost ยท Mar 23 at 17:53:

OH NO now I won't be able to buy a GrapheneOS device in CO or CA!! Wait a minute.... I still can't buy a GrapheneOS device there now! I have to get a Pixel and pave it over!

๐Ÿš€ stack ยท Mar 23 at 18:00:

Somehow I think TempleOS will not be complying either... Maybe it's time to listen to what God is saying.

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๐Ÿฅฌ lamb-duh:

What's going on with california and colorado age verification? โ€” Do they actually have anything to do with verification? Everyone is using the word verification, but any source that actually gets into what the bills require does not talk about verification. It seems to me that the laws are just about collecting age-based information, and using it to not show porn to minors. There seems to be no requirement to actually verify the information they collect. Am I completely misunderstanding what...

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